[Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time with Iowa Football

Thu Jun 11 06:30:28 PDT 2020

Totally agree. I was not advocating it as much as pointing it out. I fully
agree that it forces conformity to a non-familiar standard. And it is a
slippery slope on how you break a person. I fully believe Doyle pushed and
broke the wrong boundaries.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:25 AM Larry Edwards <larryed6124 at knology.net>
wrote:

> Curtis, your point about breaking down to build you back up is a very good
> one. Football is a team sport even more than wrestling where athletes are
> encouraged to work first for the good of the team in a unified way. "Break
> the rock!" Iowa banned most social media and Freshmen speaking to the press
> to ensure that unified message. However, if only a single unified message
> is allowed, that will reflect the white culture that is Iowa and there will
> be pressure for blacks to conform to that. Someone as flamboyant as DKJ was
> will find conformance difficult. The challenge going forward will be to
> find ways to allow divergent views and actions while maintaining the team
> unity and effort needed for success. It won't be easy. "Boot camp" sounds
> like a good way to describe the late summer preseason.
>
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> *From: *"Curtis Frazier" <cfrazier at ceoexpress.com>
> *To: *herky at lists.herky.net
> *Sent: *Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:29:17 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time
> with Iowa Football
>
> I think it is plausible that KF might not have known about the  racial
> slurs and degradation. He seems to delegate to the coaches and stays out of
> the weeds. If no one came to him with issues (likely for fear of
> recrimination), then he may not have known or thought that there was this
> level of concern. I am not making excuses, but it is as plausible to me as
> the fact that he would turn a blind eye to it.
>
> And to be honest, as a former collegiate athlete at Iowa, there is always
> a component of breaking you down to build you up - regardless of race. It
> is inexcusable to introduce racism into that, but it is not surprising to
> me. I lived with black football players in the summers and they certainly
> had love for Hayden Fry and his entire staff, but felt like they were in
> boot camp.
>
> CMF
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:54 PM SRINIVAS REDDY Chirra <
> hawkeye_fan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Put up with KFZs mediocre seasons for a few very good seasons thinking he
>> is a man of character and is not doing anything to hurt the university.
>> If all these news and statements are true and KFZ knew about them and
>> allowed it then it is a really sad, disturbing and disgusting time to be a
>> fan.
>> We read about the issues at OSU, at PSU at Mi and MSU and was happy not
>> to have those at UI and now even that is gone.
>> Very disappointed.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Herky <herky-bounces at lists.herky.net> on behalf of Gwen McNatt
>> Enokian <gmcnhawkeye at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2020 9:32 AM
>> *To:* Herky <herky at lists.herky.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time
>> with Iowa Football
>>
>> HN took the DJK story down.  It was not very plausible to me.
>>
>> This is all disturbing and sad to me.
>>
>> Take care everyone!
>>
>> Gwen
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020, 6:23 PM Bill Yost <oldxbbc1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am reading where Jaydon McDonald, who transferred out (past couple of
>> years) is going to sue university because of discrimination. I am beyond
>> sad and sick. Bill Yost
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 18:18 Rick Neufeld <Rneuf at netins.net> wrote:
>>
>> I definitely think he is taking this opportunity to grind an old ax.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Herky [mailto:herky-bounces at lists.herky.net] *On Behalf Of *June
>> Hauck
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 09, 2020 12:28 PM
>> *To:* herky at lists.herky.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time
>> with Iowa Football
>>
>>
>>
>> DJK was always in the doghouse when he was here.  I wonder if his
>> “flashy” personality made him a bad fit with the blue-collar,
>> keep-your-head-down-and-work ethos of Iowa football.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also wonder if Doyle can be kept on after all this.  So many stories
>> coming out about him.
>>
>>
>>
>> June H.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Larry Edwards
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:11 AM
>>
>> *To:* herky
>>
>> *Subject:* [Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time with
>> Iowa Football
>>
>>
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