<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif;font-size:large;color:#20124d">Totally agree. I was not advocating it as much as pointing it out. I fully agree that it forces conformity to a non-familiar standard. And it is a slippery slope on how you break a person. I fully believe Doyle pushed and broke the wrong boundaries. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:25 AM Larry Edwards <<a href="mailto:larryed6124@knology.net">larryed6124@knology.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div>Curtis, your point about breaking down to build you back up is a very good one. Football is a team sport even more than wrestling where athletes are encouraged to work first for the good of the team in a unified way. "Break the rock!" Iowa banned most social media and Freshmen speaking to the press to ensure that unified message. However, if only a single unified message is allowed, that will reflect the white culture that is Iowa and there will be pressure for blacks to conform to that. Someone as flamboyant as DKJ was will find conformance difficult. The challenge going forward will be to find ways to allow divergent views and actions while maintaining the team unity and effort needed for success. It won't be easy. "Boot camp" sounds like a good way to describe the late summer preseason.</div><div><br></div><hr id="gmail-m_2136869489830786055zwchr"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><b>From: </b>"Curtis Frazier" <<a href="mailto:cfrazier@ceoexpress.com" target="_blank">cfrazier@ceoexpress.com</a>><br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net" target="_blank">herky@lists.herky.net</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:29:17 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time with Iowa Football<br><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(32,18,77)">I think it is plausible that KF might not have known about the racial slurs and degradation. He seems to delegate to the coaches and stays out of the weeds. If no one came to him with issues (likely for fear of recrimination), then he may not have known or thought that there was this level of concern. I am not making excuses, but it is as plausible to me as the fact that he would turn a blind eye to it. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(32,18,77)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(32,18,77)">And to be honest, as a former collegiate athlete at Iowa, there is always a component of breaking you down to build you up - regardless of race. It is inexcusable to introduce racism into that, but it is not surprising to me. I lived with black football players in the summers and they certainly had love for Hayden Fry and his entire staff, but felt like they were in boot camp. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(32,18,77)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(32,18,77)">CMF</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(32,18,77)"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:54 PM SRINIVAS REDDY Chirra <<a href="mailto:hawkeye_fan@hotmail.com" target="_blank">hawkeye_fan@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span>Put up with KFZs mediocre seasons for a few very good seasons thinking he is a man of character and is not doing anything to hurt the university.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span>If all these news and statements are true and KFZ knew about them and allowed it then it is a really sad, disturbing and disgusting time to be a fan.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span>We read about the issues at OSU, at PSU at Mi and MSU and was happy not to have those at UI and now even that is gone.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><span>Very disappointed.</span></div><div id="gmail-m_2136869489830786055gmail-m_672396133586800668appendonsend"><br></div><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%"><div id="gmail-m_2136869489830786055gmail-m_672396133586800668divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Herky <<a href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net" target="_blank">herky-bounces@lists.herky.net</a>> on behalf of Gwen McNatt Enokian <<a href="mailto:gmcnhawkeye@gmail.com" target="_blank">gmcnhawkeye@gmail.com</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 10, 2020 9:32 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Herky <<a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net" target="_blank">herky@lists.herky.net</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time with Iowa Football</span><div> </div></div><div><div dir="auto">HN took the DJK story down. It was not very plausible to me.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This is all disturbing and sad to me.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Take care everyone! </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Gwen </div></div><br><div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jun 9, 2020, 6:23 PM Bill Yost <<a href="mailto:oldxbbc1@gmail.com" target="_blank">oldxbbc1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">I am reading where Jaydon McDonald, who transferred out (past couple of years) is going to sue university because of discrimination. I am beyond sad and sick. Bill Yost </div></div><div><br><div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 18:18 Rick Neufeld <<a href="mailto:Rneuf@netins.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Rneuf@netins.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p><span size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I definitely think he is taking this opportunity to grind an old ax.<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p><p><span size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p><p><span size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Rick<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p><p><span size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p><b><span size="2" face="Tahoma" style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></span></b><span size="2" face="Tahoma" style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Herky [mailto:<a href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">herky-bounces@lists.herky.net</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>June Hauck<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 09, 2020 12:28 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> herky@lists.herky.net</a><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time with Iowa Football<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p></div></div><p><span size="3" face="Times New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p><div><div><div><p><span size="3" color="black" face="Calibri" style="color:black;font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">DJK was always in the doghouse when he was here. I wonder if his “flashy” personality made him a bad fit with the blue-collar, keep-your-head-down-and-work ethos of Iowa football.<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p></div><div><p><span size="3" color="black" face="Calibri" style="color:black;font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p></div><div><p><span size="3" color="black" face="Calibri" style="color:black;font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">I also wonder if Doyle can be kept on after all this. So many stories coming out about him.<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p></div><div><p><span size="3" color="black" face="Calibri" style="color:black;font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p></div><div><p><span size="3" color="black" face="Calibri" style="color:black;font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">June H.<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p></div><div><div><div><p><span size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma" style="color:black;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black"> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p></div><div><div><p style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma" style="color:black;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black;font-weight:bold">From:</span></span></b><span size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma" style="color:black;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black"> Larry Edwards <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p></div><div><p style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma" style="color:black;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black;font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></span></b><span size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma" style="color:black;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black"> Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:11 AM<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p></div><div><p style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma" style="color:black;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black;font-weight:bold">To:</span></span></b><span size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma" style="color:black;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black"> herky <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p></div><div><p style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma" style="color:black;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black;font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></span></b><span size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma" style="color:black;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black"> [Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time with Iowa Football<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p></div></div></div><div><p><span size="3" color="black" face="Calibri" style="color:black;font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p><span size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman" style="color:black;font-family:"Times New Roman";font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"><a 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