[Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time with Iowa Football

Thu Jun 11 14:27:46 PDT 2020

good discussion

I think that this is what most of the players are saying

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 8:30 AM Curtis Frazier <cfrazier at ceoexpress.com>
wrote:

> Totally agree. I was not advocating it as much as pointing it out. I fully
> agree that it forces conformity to a non-familiar standard. And it is a
> slippery slope on how you break a person. I fully believe Doyle pushed and
> broke the wrong boundaries.
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:25 AM Larry Edwards <larryed6124 at knology.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Curtis, your point about breaking down to build you back up is a very
>> good one. Football is a team sport even more than wrestling where athletes
>> are encouraged to work first for the good of the team in a unified way.
>> "Break the rock!" Iowa banned most social media and Freshmen speaking to
>> the press to ensure that unified message. However, if only a single unified
>> message is allowed, that will reflect the white culture that is Iowa and
>> there will be pressure for blacks to conform to that. Someone as flamboyant
>> as DKJ was will find conformance difficult. The challenge going forward
>> will be to find ways to allow divergent views and actions while maintaining
>> the team unity and effort needed for success. It won't be easy. "Boot camp"
>> sounds like a good way to describe the late summer preseason.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Curtis Frazier" <cfrazier at ceoexpress.com>
>> *To: *herky at lists.herky.net
>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:29:17 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time
>> with Iowa Football
>>
>> I think it is plausible that KF might not have known about the  racial
>> slurs and degradation. He seems to delegate to the coaches and stays out of
>> the weeds. If no one came to him with issues (likely for fear of
>> recrimination), then he may not have known or thought that there was this
>> level of concern. I am not making excuses, but it is as plausible to me as
>> the fact that he would turn a blind eye to it.
>>
>> And to be honest, as a former collegiate athlete at Iowa, there is always
>> a component of breaking you down to build you up - regardless of race. It
>> is inexcusable to introduce racism into that, but it is not surprising to
>> me. I lived with black football players in the summers and they certainly
>> had love for Hayden Fry and his entire staff, but felt like they were in
>> boot camp.
>>
>> CMF
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:54 PM SRINIVAS REDDY Chirra <
>> hawkeye_fan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Put up with KFZs mediocre seasons for a few very good seasons thinking
>>> he is a man of character and is not doing anything to hurt the university.
>>> If all these news and statements are true and KFZ knew about them and
>>> allowed it then it is a really sad, disturbing and disgusting time to be a
>>> fan.
>>> We read about the issues at OSU, at PSU at Mi and MSU and was happy not
>>> to have those at UI and now even that is gone.
>>> Very disappointed.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Herky <herky-bounces at lists.herky.net> on behalf of Gwen McNatt
>>> Enokian <gmcnhawkeye at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2020 9:32 AM
>>> *To:* Herky <herky at lists.herky.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time
>>> with Iowa Football
>>>
>>> HN took the DJK story down.  It was not very plausible to me.
>>>
>>> This is all disturbing and sad to me.
>>>
>>> Take care everyone!
>>>
>>> Gwen
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020, 6:23 PM Bill Yost <oldxbbc1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am reading where Jaydon McDonald, who transferred out (past couple of
>>> years) is going to sue university because of discrimination. I am beyond
>>> sad and sick. Bill Yost
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 18:18 Rick Neufeld <Rneuf at netins.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I definitely think he is taking this opportunity to grind an old ax.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Herky [mailto:herky-bounces at lists.herky.net] *On Behalf Of *June
>>> Hauck
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 09, 2020 12:28 PM
>>> *To:* herky at lists.herky.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time
>>> with Iowa Football
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DJK was always in the doghouse when he was here.  I wonder if his
>>> “flashy” personality made him a bad fit with the blue-collar,
>>> keep-your-head-down-and-work ethos of Iowa football.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also wonder if Doyle can be kept on after all this.  So many stories
>>> coming out about him.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> June H.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Larry Edwards
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:11 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* herky
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [Herky] Derrell Johnson-Koulianos Statement on His Time with
>>> Iowa Football
>>>
>>>
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