[Herky] President

[Gwen McNatt]

I meant all state universities, not just in  Illinois. But anyone who lives
in Illinois is aware of the many, many scandals and examples of poor
governance in Urbana and not just in the athletic department. At one time,
they were admitting out-of-state students preferentially over top Illinois
students in hopes of being a more world class institution on the backs of
Illinois tax payers. Northern, Southern and Eastern are suffering from
dwindling enrollment right now, I don't know much more about it but it's a
problem that may need more than an academic  to solve.  Of course this is
Illinois where corruption is a way of life....
I am not attacking people in academia. I just earned my PhD for Pete's
sake. I do research and teach and publish.  But I do believe in innovation
and looking for fresh solutions to old problems. We have the same problems
in health care. If someone is a good clinician, they often get promoted
into leadership and it's a poor fit.  We have started looking at more
non-clinicians in leadership roles for that reason. That is all I am trying
to say here.
On Sep 24, 2015 10:34 AM, "Kay Ramseyer" <g.ramseyer at comcast.net> wrote:

> I do not know which universities you are describing but do not use a broad
> brush when describing state universities in Illinois.
>
> On Sep 24, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Gwen McNatt <gmcnhawkeye at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I can certainly see that perspective and I know you are a wonderful
> teacher and researcher  but I am an administrator in a academic setting and
> have spent many years as a student and now have two college students. Our
> universities, particularly state universities, are often very poorly run.
> The unbelievable escalation of tuition over the past two decades is
> unconscionable.  I am frequently dismayed by the inefficiency and utter
> lack of accountability displayed by both admistrative folk and instructors
> alike. At both colleges that my kids went to last year, they had several
> classes in which they had no grades at all at mid term. Another instructor
> (not at Iowa) changed the grading criteria after finals and when my
> daughter tried to protest it quoting the actual faculty manual, she was
> pretty much blown off. Of course there is the age old book rip-off.  I
> could write a book on issues in my doctoral program. Higher education will
> not survive if it continues in the same old ways. I think someone from
> outside the club may need to get things on the right track, like Mitch
> Daniels at Purdue. Maybe this guy is not the right one but there needs to
> be change. Just to end on a positive note, by far Iowa is one of the best
> schools to deal with on all levels.
>
> Gwen
> On Sep 23, 2015 5:37 PM, "Jayant Rajgopal" <jay.rajgopal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Unfortunately Gwen, business men with no academic experience or
>> background don't LET the deans manage scholarly activities!
>> On a side note, I'm not a dean or even a dept. chair, but I have been a
>> professor at a Research 1 school for over thirty years - I am firmly
>> convinced that a significant proportion of the (constantly increasing
>> number of...) non-academic administrators we seem to have (development,
>> diversity, research accounting, information technology) are there for the
>> sole purpose of making life harder for faculty and students :-(
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Gwen McNatt <gmcnhawkeye at gmail.com>
>>> To: Herky <herky at lists.herky.net>
>>> Cc:
>>> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:15:16 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [Herky] President
>>>
>>> Agree
>>>
>>> We need a business man to be the chief executive. Let the deans manage
>>> the scholarly activities. Having spent the last 8 years in school, I can
>>> testify to the need for some business and customer service acumen in the
>>> institution that I attended
>>> On Sep 22, 2015 1:25 PM, "Jeff Napier" <jnapier111 at outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Based on the little I have seen so far I do think he will be a much
>>>> better president as far as supporting athletics.
>>>>
>>>
>> <snip>
>>
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