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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>I re-read and I stand corrected…..apologies. All you state is true. I just read that PSU has 11x more funds in their club than we do….and we are in 2<sup>nd</sup> place. Money doesn’t talk, it yells. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>I remain faithful. We had a bad turn of luck with Gross, Teasdale, Renteria no longer on the team, so these things happen. PSU is not going away. I think tOSU will settle lower than they are, and it will be back to a 2-3 horse race next year and for a few more. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>The ultimate good news is that we are consistently one of the best teams in the nation, year in and year out. It is good to be a fan of a sport In which we are so well represented, right? <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Herky <herky-bounces@lists.herky.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Napier<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 06, 2018 6:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> herky@lists.herky.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Herky] Wrestling Recap - Pre Big Ten Tourney - Read only if you like wrestling!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I saw this on another site which give you an indication of the significant difference between tOSU / PSU and Iowa as far as the quality of recruits.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2C2C2C'>Anyone ranked in top 10 p4p gets a "1." Someone ranked 11-20 gets a "2." And so on. If not in top 100, considered NR.<br><br><b>tOSU</b><br>125 1<br>133 1<br>141 1<br>149 2<br>157 1<br>165 10<br>174 1<br>184 1<br>197 9<br>Hwt 1<br><br><b>PSU</b><br>125 NR<br>133 NR<br>141 1<br>149 1<br>157 1<br>165 1<br>174 1<br>184 1<br>197 5<br>Hwt 1<br><br><b>Iowa </b><br>125 1<br>133 NR<br>141 7<br>149 3<br>157 1<br>165 1<br>174 NR<br>184 NR<br>197 9<br>Hwt 2<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2C2C2C'>Also, PSU had a "1" at 125 until Suriano transferred, and a "2" at 133 until Cortez grew/under-performed. tOSU originally had another "1" at 165 until White transferred out.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Herky <<a href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net">herky-bounces@lists.herky.net</a>> on behalf of Jeff Napier <<a href="mailto:jnapier111@outlook.com">jnapier111@outlook.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 6, 2018 10:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net">herky@lists.herky.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Herky] Wrestling Recap - Pre Big Ten Tourney - Read only if you like wrestling!</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Curtis - I did not say that Iowa won't climb back to the top. I just said that it would be very tough and require significant investment in the HWC and new facilities and much better recruiting. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I think they have made the important first steps concerning HWC and facilities. Hiring Perry as coach of HWC was huge. They are in the planning phase for the new facility and a couple of people have already pledged $1 million each toward this.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Recruiting also seems to be better but for every Top 10 guy that Iowa gets PSU gets two or more. I am not clear how you close that gap with the recruiting tactics used by PSU. And we have not mentioned Ohio State but they seem to be recruiting right there with PSU. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Tom Brands has said numerous times that they are at a disadvantage recruiting because they do it the right way. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>You talk about the stars aligning for PSU and Ohio State. I remember when PSU had Taylor and Ruth. Everyone said wait until these guys graduate and PSU will come back to the pack. Well now we are looking at Retherford, Nolf, Nickel, Hall , etc. And the next group following them have the same credentials so there is no reason to think they wont be just as good. Iowa has to figure out how to get to that level.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Agree that Tom And Terry are the guys. I have no interest in a change.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Herky <<a href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net">herky-bounces@lists.herky.net</a>> on behalf of Curtis Frazier <<a href="mailto:cfrazier@ceoexpress.com">cfrazier@ceoexpress.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 5, 2018 6:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net">herky@lists.herky.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Herky] Wrestling Recap - Pre Big Ten Tourney - Read only if you like wrestling!</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Addressing the elephant in the (literal) room – Jeff is spot on below. Recruiting is at the core. Continuing my football analogy, the likelihood of getting a Josey Jewell (2 star lighting it up on a national level) is very slim. Top talent always migrates to top programs, which is the legitimate reason why programs in all sports at the top remain at the top. As for the money and ‘soft schollys’, that happens. Does it happen at PSU? Pretty sure it does. Does it happen at Iowa? probably at a much lesser degree. Should it happen? Absolutely not as the rules currently are written. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Where I disagree with you, Jeff, is that Iowa won’t climb back up again. We have a good room, and some solid recruits. The stars aligned for tOSU and PSU for the last few years. I will go out on a limb and say – look at the football programs of the top wrestling programs – a pretty solid fan base of boosters and deep pockets – they could either distribute the wealth or be an excellent learning opportunity on how to do it right and not get caught – but I have no proof, so that is speculative.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>I want 1<sup>st</sup> place, no doubt……but if we can get this far with what we are working with, I remain faithful to our ability to get on top again.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>And just to address it - I think Tom and Terry are absolutely the right guys to continue leading this program – hands down. Maybe some more help with recruiting (not replace, but assist). Having Mark Perry in the HWC room is a good move and will help draw some guys, which will pay off. But no coaching changes…..very seldom works and especially when there is no one with the immediate pedigree to even be considered. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=xxmsonormal><b>From:</b> Herky <<a href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net">herky-bounces@lists.herky.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Napier<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 05, 2018 6:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net">herky@lists.herky.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Herky] Wrestling Recap - Pre Big Ten Tourney - Read only if you like wrestling!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>June - I think Iowa can get to the top again but it is going to be very tough. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> - First can they raise the $$$ needed to get the HWC funded at the level like the NLWC in addition to raising enough to build a new stand alone Wrestling facility that is the best in the country. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> - Second - Recruiting. You need Top 10-15 pfp high schools studs to make up a big percentage of your line up if you want to compete with PSU. I think Iowa has changed their recruiting in recent years to give more money to fewer guys to try and get the best. It has paid off with the likes of Kemerer, Marinelli, Warner and Lee. But Iowa needs to have 7-8 guys like this not 4. With the other weights you hope that guys like Murin, Young, Turk can develop so they score some points at Nationals. Related to recruiting is a constant buzz that PSU is using the money in the NLWC to get around the 9.9 scholarship limitations. I don't know all the details and not sure if I will get this right but basically you go to PSU for little money and then get your loans paid off through the NLWC and doing camps where the money comes from PSU boosters. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> - Practically how does this play out. PSU seems to add 3-4 Top guys every year. Iowa has limited money this year and is basically limited to getting one top 20 guy plus Terry Brand's son.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> - Iowa high school wrestling also seems to be down which also makes it harder. You basically have one guy, Sorensen, from Iowa that is a top guy.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> - On a positive note Iowa should have more money in 2019 and some of the guys around the program seem to think it is going to be a very good class starting with Patrick Kennedy out of </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Kasson-Mantorville, MN (where Stoll is from) </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id="x_x_divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Herky <<a href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net">herky-bounces@lists.herky.net</a>> on behalf of uiowa75 <<a href="mailto:uiowa75@gmail.com">uiowa75@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 5, 2018 4:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net">herky@lists.herky.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Herky] Wrestling Recap - Pre Big Ten Tourney - Read only if you like wrestling!</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=xxmsonormal>what was up with Marinelli this past weekend..he looked so good against PSU Joseph a couple of weeks ago ?? nerves, his knee, coditioning...or all ? THX. for all your insight as always Curtis<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="x_x_x_composer_signature"><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:black'>-------- Original message --------</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:black'>From: Curtis Frazier <<a href="mailto:cfrazier@ceoexpress.com">cfrazier@ceoexpress.com</a>> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:black'>Date: 3/5/18 3:53 PM (GMT-05:00) </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:black'>To: <a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net">herky@lists.herky.net</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:black'>Subject: Re: [Herky] Wrestling Recap - Pre Big Ten Tourney - Read only if you like wrestling! </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Absolutely, June – absolutely. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Right now (this year) is just not our time. PSU has 5 out of 10 national champions returning this year. tOSU has 3 returning NCAA champions and a slew of great wrestlers (their best team ever IMHO), and Michigan has a tremendous team as well that has some great experience (probably at parity with us). 16 of the 20 B10 finalists came from these 3 programs (and will all be likely All Americans). We brought 1 senior and a slew of underclassmen to the dance. They performed as well as could be expected. Next year, we will be back in the mix.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>As far as analogies, think football…..We are Alabama. An old dynasty who is always in the mix, but has streaks of success, with a few down years, but always up towards the top. Parity is starting to appear across the sport. Here is how I see the analogy (my opinions only):</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>FOOTBALL WRESTLING</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Alabama Penn State (Now), but Iowa historically Dynasty currently, so the best flock there. Historical dynasty as well</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>tOSU tOSU Flashes of brilliance, and a steady at the top</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Clemson Michigan Had a good year, but not long term sustained or a trend</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>PSU Iowa Dynasty – having a good year, but in a conference with powerhouses. Will rise again</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Notre Dame Oklahoma State Historical dynasty, but the brass has a little tarnish</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>FSU NC State Good and stays close to the top, but not cracking the top</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Florida Missouri Good and in the fray, but not a top contender </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>GO HAWKS!!!!!</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=xxxmsonormal><b>From:</b> Herky <<a href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net">herky-bounces@lists.herky.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>June Hauck<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 04, 2018 7:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net">herky@lists.herky.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Herky] Wrestling Recap - Pre Big Ten Tourney - Read only if you like wrestling!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=xxxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Do you think our program will ever be back to the level of winning a national championship again, or are those days over?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>June H.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=xxxmsonormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Curtis Frazier </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxxmsonormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Sunday, March 04, 2018 6:12 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxxmsonormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net">herky@lists.herky.net</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xxxmsonormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Re: [Herky] Wrestling Recap - Pre Big Ten Tourney - Read only if you like wrestling!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Well, it was not the best B10 tournament ever, but we expected this to be a rebuilding year. Here is how we did:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Weight My Prediction B10 Tourney Pre-Seed </span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red'>Actual Placement +/Even/- to pre-seeds </span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>125 1<sup>st</sup> 2<sup>nd</sup> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red'>3<sup>rd</sup> - </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>133 8<sup>th</sup> N/A </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red'>DNP Even</span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>141 5<sup>th</sup> N/A </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red'>5<sup>th</sup> +</span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>149 2<sup>nd</sup> 2<sup>nd</sup> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red'>2<sup>nd</sup> Even </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>157 1<sup>st</sup> 1<sup>st</sup> (Tie) </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red'>6<sup>th</sup> (Medical forfeited 5<sup>th</sup> place match) -</span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>165 2<sup>nd </sup>2<sup>nd</sup> <sup> </sup></span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red'>6<sup>th</sup> -</span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>174 4<sup>th</sup> 7<sup>th</sup> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red'>6<sup>th</sup> + </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>184 6<sup>th</sup> 8<sup>th</sup> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red'>8<sup>th</sup> Even </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>197 3<sup>rd</sup> 3<sup>rd</sup> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red'>6<sup>th </sup>(Medical forfeited 5<sup>th</sup> place match) -</span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>HWT 3<sup>rd</sup> 4<sup>th</sup> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red'>4<sup>th</sup> Even</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Team:</span></u></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> 4<sup>th</sup> Place (1=PSU, 2 = tOSU, 3 = Michigan) </span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red'>We finished 4<sup>th</sup> behind these teams, with tOSU winning, PSU = 2, UM = 3</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>So overall, we had 4 guys wrestle to their seeds, 2 guys wrestle above their seeds, and 4 wrestle below their seeds (2 Medical forfeits but below their seeds, 1 train wreck of a tournament for Marinelli and 2 weight classes – 125 and 165 being the most loaded in the nation). All in all, what should have been expected. I think the national tournament will show better for us, but the wheels are not off the bus. Here is the synopsis:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>125: Lost 1 tough match to a stud and 4x big 10 champ. I look for him to bounce at NCAA’s and be a potential finalist…..as a true freshman</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>133: Nothing to shame here – he tried real hard, but the kid is just not Iowa caliber. Hope we can fix this next year, b/c he cannot hold the starting position </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>141: REAL good tourney for this guy. Could do damage at NCAAs, but impressed with his efforts</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>149: 2<sup>nd</sup> place. You don’t lose to the same guy 7 times and expect any different results the 8<sup>th</sup> time if you do not change your approach. Thanks for 4 great years, BS!</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>157: Sick….and it showed. Good idea to medical out, heal up, and come back fresh to NCAA’s. Could be a finalist. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>165: Bad, bad tourney. If he watches and learns, he will easily be an AA. Could even make to the finals</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>174: Showed better wrestling and guts. Could be a fringe AA, but definitely 1-2 wins at the tourney if he pushes the pace.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>184: Not a great showing, but he made it to the NCAA’s. All we can ask for.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>197: Really a poor showing. Might be because he is a natural 184 lb’er, but it was just lackluster overall. Medical forfeit could be b/c of the flu. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>HWT: 3 studs ahead of him. I am hopeful he can knock off just 1 of them come tournament time</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Herky [<a href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net">mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Curtis Frazier<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 19, 2018 4:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net">herky@lists.herky.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Herky] Wrestling Recap - Pre Big Ten Tourney - Read only if you like wrestling!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>All,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>I am out of hibernation and now it is time for my annual recap going into the lull before the Big Ten tournament. Contrary to what everyone is hearing, I think that is an impressive team. I would venture to say that the talent in many weight classes is some of the best we have had in a long time. The problem is that PSU and tOSU have incredible teams (and are in conference), and Michigan is very respectable. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>I think we have a legitimate shot at 5 finalists (or at least 4 and a dark horse), and 2 with a pretty good shot to win it all - 125 (Lee), 149 (Sorenson, or SOAR), 157 (Kemerer, or KemDawg), 165 (Marinelli, or The Bull), and 285 (Stoll) all are some of the best we have. That is the good news. The bad news is that each of these guys have almost an unbelievable/unbeatable talent ALSO in their weight class, and ALSO in their conference! Here is MY view of their toughest competition:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><i><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Our Strong Potential Finalists</span></u></i></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>125: <u>Lee (IA)</u> vs. <u>Nathan Thomasello (tOSU)</u> – National Champion in 2015, 3x All American (1<sup>st</sup>,3<sup>rd</sup>,3<sup>rd</sup> ). Spencer beat him, but it is not an easy feat to repeat. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>149: <u>Sorenson (IA)</u> vs. <u>Zain Retherford (PSU)</u> – Returning 2x National Champion. Hodge Trophy winner, and probably the best wrestler (or 2<sup>nd</sup> best) in college. Sorenson has NEVER beat him, but has come close last year. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>157: <u>Kemerer (IA)</u> vs. Jason Nolf (PSU) – Returning National Champ and 3x All American. <i>There is a strong chance that he will not wrestle due to injury</i>, which could be huge. Kemerer just needs to work on his conditioning and last until and through the 3<sup>rd</sup> period with the same intensity and no one else will beat him</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>165: <u>Marinelli (IA)</u> vs. Vincenzo Joseph (PSU) – Returning National Champion. Thick and quick, The Bull just beat him in their last pairing, but I do not see that as an overly easy feat to repeat.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Hwt <u>Stoll (IA)</u> vs. Kyle Snyder (tOSU) & Adam Coon (UM) – Kyle is an Olympic Champ, World Champion, 3x All American and finalist, and a 2x National Champ. And arguably the best wrestler in the world at this weight. And…….Adam Coon just beat him. Adam is a 2x All American (3<sup>rd</sup> & 2<sup>nd</sup> ) and just beat Sam In the last dual. Both guys are beasts and Sam will face one of them prior to the finals.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal><b><i><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Our remaining lineup</span></u></i></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>133: <u>Paul Glynn</u> He is scrappy and tries hard, but is not ready to come out of the oven yet. He could have 1-2 upsets, but I honestly do not think he will be ready to win more than 1-2 at the B10’s and probably the same at NCAA, if that. This is one of our focus areas for next year and hope is that Max Murin can cut to this weight and backfill here. It is a hole in our lineup, most definitely. Bummer that Senior Philip Laux could not show more consistency. Another likely guy is Justin Stickley (sorry, but all 3 options are quite interchangeable, thus the problem). </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>141 <u>Vince Turk</u> Similar to the above – not quite ready for Prime Time. He has a single ‘go to move’ that is easily shut down. If he keeps his intensity and tries other things, he may do 1 match better than our 133lb class. Outside chance that they would put in <u>Carter Happel</u> instead (4x Iowa State Champ in IA) as they have been splitting time in the lineup. Happel has knocked off a few ranked guys, but just does not have the maturity to be consistent. However, I think Brands prefers Turk. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>174 <u>Joey Gunther</u> People like him and I do as well, but I don’t think he has the talent to make the podium……yet. He will do well and stay close to most, but he just does not have the offense to beat the elite right now. Another wrestler that may make this spot is <u>Kaleb Young</u>. He has been inserted into the lineup a few times and I, personally, like him. I think he has a bigger engine and sense of urgency and could do slightly better. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>184 <u>Mitch Bowman</u> He is a scrapper and is a little hot & cold, but he hangs in there. Could finish middle of the pack at B10’s and might be a round of 12 at NCAA’s. Could slip in as low All American. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>197 <u>Cash Wilcke</u> Another good wrestler with a bad mojo right now. He has not been wrestling good as of late – no gas at end, letting others finish moves at end of period, etc. if Brands (x2) can get him out of his own head and wrestling with aggression, he could be an AA (he was 1 match away from All American last year). Easily the best athlete on the team (look at his bio!), and can do really well. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>So, My predictions? Here they are:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Weight Big 10 Tournament NCAA Tournament</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>125 1<sup>st</sup> 1<sup>st</sup> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>133 8<sup>th</sup> DNP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>141 5<sup>th</sup> DNP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>149 2<sup>nd</sup> 2<sup>nd</sup> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>157 1<sup>st</sup> 1<sup>st</sup> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>165 2<sup>nd </sup>2<sup>nd</sup></span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>174 4<sup>th</sup> 8<sup>th</sup> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>187 6<sup>th</sup> DNP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>197 3<sup>rd</sup> 5<sup>th</sup> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>HWT 3<sup>rd</sup> 3<sup>rd</sup> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Team:</span></u></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> 4<sup>th</sup> Place (1=PSU, 2 = tOSU, 3 = Michigan)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Bad news:</span></u></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> We lose only Brandon Sorenson (149) to graduation</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Good news:</span></u></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> We can reload at 149 with slight caliber loss (Pat Lugo)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> We get Jacob Warner in the lineup</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> We get Anthony Cassioppi in the room and ‘on deck’ at HWT</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Looking FAR ahead to next year:</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>125 Spencer Lee (Solid)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>133 Max Murin (or unknown transfer)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>141 Carter Happel (could be the go forward with a little more room time)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>149 Pat Lugo (Edinboro transfer – should be immediate All American candidate)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>157 Michael Kemerer (and Brands coming in as a true freshman for backfill)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>165 Alex Marinelli (Solid)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>174 Mitch Bowman (wouldn’t surprise me if Kaleb Young gets the nod, though)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>184 Cash Wilcke (dropping weight, keeping muscle, kicking a**)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>197 Jacob Warner (VERY good freshman waiting his turn)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>HWT Stoll (Solid) (and we are bringing in a stud in Anthony Cassioppi to backfill)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxxmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" 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