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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>All good points, Jeff. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>I think Spencer’s problem earlier was 18 year old-it is. It is a whole different level there. I am really holding out hope he has grown out of the peach fuzz, but valid observation.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Kem-Dawg does have the knee, but his overall engine is more concerning to me. He just winds down after the 1<sup>st</sup>. Could be just me, but I think that may be his downfall.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>As for IMar, I like him, but I worried more about Joseph and his size. IMar seems to be someone Marinelli can keep with. Either way, he is going to have to giant-kill one of them before the finals, and likely the other in the finals. If that happens, I am a full Bull believer!<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Wilke is admittedly my stretch. I am hopeful he clears the funk before tourney time.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Whether 33 or 41, We will have a filler at one, for sure. I actually spoke with a friend of mine with the HWC, and he said that Murin is the most likely to drop, if needed (and has the body to do so), but no cutting yet.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Looking forward to the next month, Jeff!!<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Herky [mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Napier<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 20, 2018 12:03 AM<br><b>To:</b> Gwen Enokian <gmcnhawkeye@gmail.com>; Herky <herky@lists.herky.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Herky] Wrestling Recap - Pre Big Ten Tourney - Read only if you like wrestling!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Gwen - Correct. Downey will never wrestle as a Hawkeye<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Curtis - Good stuff. I agree with most of what you said but I am probably a little more cautious than you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Lee - He can certainly win it all. My concern is that he has had a couple of matches where he has lost the third period. Not sure if this is a conditioning issue or a weight mgmt issue but this does concern me.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Kemerer - Seems like he has a knee issue also which has hampered him in recent matches. Not sure if he will be at full strength or not. I think he can still win, assuming Nolf is not healthy, but margin is thin if knee is an issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Marinelli - You mention Joseph but not IMar. At this point I think they are both better than the Bull at this point.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Wilke - I think making top 8 is a more realistic hope at this point. He did much better than expected last year so maybe he will surprise me.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>As far as the future I have not seen anything that makes me think Murin can get to 133. He is the best 141 guy right now so I expect him to be at that weight next year. 133 looks to be a big hole again next year unless thky get a transfer.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Herky <<a href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net">herky-bounces@lists.herky.net</a>> on behalf of Gwen Enokian <<a href="mailto:gmcnhawkeye@gmail.com">gmcnhawkeye@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 19, 2018 7:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> Herky<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Herky] Wrestling Recap - Pre Big Ten Tourney - Read only if you like wrestling!</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>thanks very interesting <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and Pat Downey will never wrestle as a Hawkeye? <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 19, 2018 3:39 PM, "Curtis Frazier" <<a href="mailto:cfrazier@ceoexpress.com">cfrazier@ceoexpress.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>All,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>I am out of hibernation and now it is time for my annual recap going into the lull before the Big Ten tournament. Contrary to what everyone is hearing, I think that is an impressive team. I would venture to say that the talent in many weight classes is some of the best we have had in a long time. The problem is that PSU and tOSU have incredible teams (and are in conference), and Michigan is very respectable. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>I think we have a legitimate shot at 5 finalists (or at least 4 and a dark horse), and 2 with a pretty good shot to win it all - 125 (Lee), 149 (Sorenson, or SOAR), 157 (Kemerer, or KemDawg), 165 (Marinelli, or The Bull), and 285 (Stoll) all are some of the best we have. That is the good news. The bad news is that each of these guys have almost an unbelievable/unbeatable talent ALSO in their weight class, and ALSO in their conference! Here is MY view of their toughest competition:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><i><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Our Strong Potential Finalists</span></u></i></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>125: <u>Lee (IA)</u> vs. <u>Nathan Thomasello (tOSU)</u> – National Champion in 2015, 3x All American (1<sup>st</sup>,3<sup>rd</sup>,3<sup>rd</sup> ). Spencer beat him, but it is not an easy feat to repeat. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>149: <u>Sorenson (IA)</u> vs. <u>Zain Retherford (PSU)</u> – Returning 2x National Champion. Hodge Trophy winner, and probably the best wrestler (or 2<sup>nd</sup> best) in college. Sorenson has NEVER beat him, but has come close last year. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>157: <u>Kemerer (IA)</u> vs. Jason Nolf (PSU) – Returning National Champ and 3x All American. <i>There is a strong chance that he will not wrestle due to injury</i>, which could be huge. Kemerer just needs to work on his conditioning and last until and through the 3<sup>rd</sup> period with the same intensity and no one else will beat him</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>165: <u>Marinelli (IA)</u> vs. Vincenzo Joseph (PSU) – Returning National Champion. Thick and quick, The Bull just beat him in their last pairing, but I do not see that as an overly easy feat to repeat.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Hwt <u>Stoll (IA)</u> vs. Kyle Snyder (tOSU) & Adam Coon (UM) – Kyle is an Olympic Champ, World Champion, 3x All American and finalist, and a 2x National Champ. And arguably the best wrestler in the world at this weight. And…….Adam Coon just beat him. Adam is a 2x All American (3<sup>rd</sup> & 2<sup>nd</sup> ) and just beat Sam In the last dual. Both guys are beasts and Sam will face one of them prior to the finals.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><i><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Our remaining lineup</span></u></i></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>133: <u>Paul Glynn</u> He is scrappy and tries hard, but is not ready to come out of the oven yet. He could have 1-2 upsets, but I honestly do not think he will be ready to win more than 1-2 at the B10’s and probably the same at NCAA, if that. This is one of our focus areas for next year and hope is that Max Murin can cut to this weight and backfill here. It is a hole in our lineup, most definitely. Bummer that Senior Philip Laux could not show more consistency. Another likely guy is Justin Stickley (sorry, but all 3 options are quite interchangeable, thus the problem). </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>141 <u>Vince Turk</u> Similar to the above – not quite ready for Prime Time. He has a single ‘go to move’ that is easily shut down. If he keeps his intensity and tries other things, he may do 1 match better than our 133lb class. Outside chance that they would put in <u>Carter Happel</u> instead (4x Iowa State Champ in IA) as they have been splitting time in the lineup. Happel has knocked off a few ranked guys, but just does not have the maturity to be consistent. However, I think Brands prefers Turk. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>174 <u>Joey Gunther</u> People like him and I do as well, but I don’t think he has the talent to make the podium……yet. He will do well and stay close to most, but he just does not have the offense to beat the elite right now. Another wrestler that may make this spot is <u>Kaleb Young</u>. He has been inserted into the lineup a few times and I, personally, like him. I think he has a bigger engine and sense of urgency and could do slightly better. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>184 <u>Mitch Bowman</u> He is a scrapper and is a little hot & cold, but he hangs in there. Could finish middle of the pack at B10’s and might be a round of 12 at NCAA’s. Could slip in as low All American. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>197 <u>Cash Wilcke</u> Another good wrestler with a bad mojo right now. He has not been wrestling good as of late – no gas at end, letting others finish moves at end of period, etc. if Brands (x2) can get him out of his own head and wrestling with aggression, he could be an AA (he was 1 match away from All American last year). Easily the best athlete on the team (look at his bio!), and can do really well. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>So, My predictions? Here they are:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Weight Big 10 Tournament NCAA Tournament</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>125 1<sup>st</sup> 1<sup>st</sup> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>133 8<sup>th</sup> DNP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>141 5<sup>th</sup> DNP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>149 2<sup>nd</sup> 2<sup>nd</sup> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>157 1<sup>st</sup> 1<sup>st</sup> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>165 2<sup>nd </sup>2<sup>nd</sup></span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>174 4<sup>th</sup> 8<sup>th</sup> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>187 6<sup>th</sup> DNP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>197 3<sup>rd</sup> 5<sup>th</sup> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>HWT 3<sup>rd</sup> 3<sup>rd</sup> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Team:</span></u></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> 4<sup>th</sup> Place (1=PSU, 2 = tOSU, 3 = Michigan)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Bad news:</span></u></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> We lose only Brandon Sorenson (149) to graduation</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Good news:</span></u></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> We can reload at 149 with slight caliber loss (Pat Lugo)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> We get Jacob Warner in the lineup</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> We get Anthony Cassioppi in the room and ‘on deck’ at HWT</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Looking FAR ahead to next year:</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>125 Spencer Lee (Solid)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>133 Max Murin (or unknown transfer)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>141 Carter Happel (could be the go forward with a little more room time)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>149 Pat Lugo (Edinboro transfer – should be immediate All American candidate)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>157 Michael Kemerer (and Brands coming in as a true freshman for backfill)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>165 Alex Marinelli (Solid)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>174 Mitch Bowman (wouldn’t surprise me if Kaleb Young gets the nod, though)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>184 Cash Wilcke (dropping weight, keeping muscle, kicking a**)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>197 Jacob Warner (VERY good freshman waiting his turn)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>HWT Stoll (Solid) (and we are bringing in a stud in Anthony Cassioppi to backfill)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Herky mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Herky@lists.herky.net">Herky@lists.herky.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net" target="_blank">http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></body></html>