<div dir="auto">there is certainly some space between giving back your tickets and discussing that this coach has underperformed </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 6, 2017 7:33 AM, "Suzanne Bailey" <<a href="mailto:minburnsb@gmail.com">minburnsb@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Good grief, What a downer. I guess I'll have to start looking at
      this team as a total disaster. Give up completely and send my
      season tickets back.  As Dennis said, I'll try to back off the
      edge. Deep breath, life is still good. There that feels better. <br>
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    <p>Sue<br>
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    <div class="m_-3414044396770854276moz-cite-prefix">On 12/5/2017 8:41 PM, John Lundell
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Well the Hawkeyes have a solid hold on last
          place in the Big Ten with no wins and the worst overall record
          in the league. The ship is just about upside down right now so
          it’ll be tall task to right itself.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Yep, Fran has been successful in his past,
          but not in a prestige league such as the Big Ten.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">After six years I expect more success than
          what we are experiencing. Not only are we losing, but the
          games are not even entertaining to watch (IMHO). </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">2016-17, NIT, one win</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">2015-16, NCAA, one win</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">2014-15, NCAA, one win</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">2013-14, NIT, no win</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">2012-13, NIT four wins</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">2011-12, NIT, one win</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">2010-11, no post season games</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Herky
              [<a class="m_-3414044396770854276moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net" target="_blank">mailto:herky-bounces@lists.<wbr>herky.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dennis
              Baker<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:59 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="m_-3414044396770854276moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net" target="_blank">herky@lists.herky.net</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Herky] Stuck with Fran</p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Relax, fair weather fans.  The ship
              will right itself.  There's a lot of talent on this team,
              although they're obviously out of syc at the monent.  Fran
              has done a good job bringing us back from the depths of
              the Lick years.  He has been successful everywhere he's
              been.  He has a good staff and they've recruited well the
              last few years.  But if it makes you feel better to whine,
              bitch, complain and crucify the coach, so be it.  If you
              can't step back from the edge...then jump!  Who needs you
              anyway?</span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>----- Original Message ----- </span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> <a href="mailto:JRUTTENBURG@msn.com" title="JRUTTENBURG@msn.com" target="_blank">Jerry
                  Ruttenburg</a> </span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>To:</span></b><span> <a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net" title="herky@lists.herky.net" target="_blank">herky@lists.herky.net</a>
              </span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Sent:</span></b><span>
                Tuesday, December 05, 2017 2:15 PM</span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Subject:</span></b><span> Re:
                [Herky] Stuck with Fran</span></p>
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            <p><span>Yes, it is tongue in cheek.  Perhaps I should have
                used a smiley face after the lickliter alford part.</span></p>
            <p><span> </span></p>
            <p><span>The rest, just speculation on my part.  There is a
                systemic problem, but I don't know what it is.</span></p>
            <p><span> </span></p>
            <p><span>Jerry</span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
                    Herky <<a href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net" target="_blank">herky-bounces@lists.herky.net</a><wbr>>
                    on behalf of Gwen Enokian <<a href="mailto:gmcnhawkeye@gmail.com" target="_blank">gmcnhawkeye@gmail.com</a>><br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:20 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Herky<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Herky] Stuck with Fran</span><span>
                  </span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I assume this is tongue in
                      cheek?  </span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span>On Dec 5, 2017 9:45 AM,
                        "Jerry Ruttenburg" <<a href="mailto:JRUTTENBURG@msn.com" target="_blank">JRUTTENBURG@msn.com</a>>
                        wrote:</span></p>
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                          <p><span>Yes, we need Lickliter or Alford
                              back.  </span></p>
                          <p><span> </span></p>
                          <p><span>This team should be better, the
                              talent is there and more is coming, but
                              there is a problem beyond youth.  They are
                              playing sloppy and there is a reason, but
                              it has not revealed itself yet. 
                              Dissension in the lock room?  I don't 
                              know but it needs to get straightened out
                              soon or this season is a lose.   </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
                                  Herky <<a href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net" target="_blank">herky-bounces@lists.herky.net</a><wbr>>
                                  on behalf of John Lundell <<a href="mailto:johnalundell@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnalundell@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 4, 2017
                                  8:57 PM<br>
                                  <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net" target="_blank">herky@lists.herky.net</a><br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b> [Herky] Stuck with
                                  Fran</span><span> </span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                                <p class="m_-3414044396770854276xm-8121173171514347568xmsonormal"><span>I
                                    assume because he has two sons
                                    committed to the Hawks we are stuck
                                    with Fran for a few more years. But
                                    he has proven nothing in his six
                                    years and this season looks like it
                                    could be his worst team yet. His
                                    Philly personality is contrary to
                                    “Iowa nice” and hence I am joining
                                    the others and checking out of Iowa
                                    men’s BB. Even the announcers
                                    tonight were saying “terrible
                                    defense”, “awful offense” about the
                                    Iowa team.</span></p>
                                <p class="m_-3414044396770854276xm-8121173171514347568xmsonormal"><span> </span></p>
                                <p class="m_-3414044396770854276xm-8121173171514347568xmsonormal"><span>I
                                    have been a continual supporter of
                                    KFz because his teams have always
                                    risen after bad years and his
                                    genuinely caring personality
                                    combined with Iowa roots as an
                                    assistant. I don’t see these traits
                                    in Fran.</span></p>
                                <p class="m_-3414044396770854276xm-8121173171514347568xmsonormal"><span> </span></p>
                                <p class="m_-3414044396770854276xm-8121173171514347568xmsonormal"><span>So
                                    sad.</span></p>
                                <p class="m_-3414044396770854276xm-8121173171514347568xmsonormal"><span> </span></p>
                                <p class="m_-3414044396770854276xm-8121173171514347568xmsonormal"><span>John</span></p>
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