<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I agree about Alford. We watched him coach for a number of years in the Missouri Valley. His father was an assistant coach. When he was at a tailgate to be introduced to Iowa fans his first year, he was not at all friendly when we told him we had watched him coach at Missouri State.<div class="">K<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:17 AM, Stephen Somermeyer <<a href="mailto:steve@somermeyer.com" class="">steve@somermeyer.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90483" class="">My memories of Lick and Steve are less pleasant - Lick was in over his head in the Big Ten and Steve was too arrogant for Iowans. Fran is pretty volatile - wonder if he's more 'intense' during practices. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90634" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90636" class="">And yes, Dr. Tom seemed to be a really nice guy and his teams played an entertaining brand of basketball. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90638" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90640" class="">And it's not that good to be a Hawkeye fan among all the Hoosiers and Boilers here in Indiana!</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90642" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Go Hawks!</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90484"><br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90647" style="display: block;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90646" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90645" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90644" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Arial" size="2" class=""><hr size="1" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dennis v <<a href="mailto:dvanlangen@verizon.net" class="">dvanlangen@verizon.net</a>><br class=""><b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net" class="">herky@lists.herky.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, December 5, 2017 11:08 AM<br class=""><b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Herky] Stuck with Fran<br class=""></font></div><div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90654"><br class=""><div id="yiv3456315943" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90653" dir="ltr" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90652" dir="ltr" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90651" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" class=""><div class="">For an 8 minute stretch in last night’s game, they had 5 guys playing their butts off, moving without the basketball, driving, sharing the ball with crisp passing, plus a smothering defense.</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">They certainly have enough depth and talent to play like that most of the time. I’m not sure they are well-conditioned, because they have stretches of longer than 8 minutes where they get very lazy on defense.</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Dennis v.</div><div class=""> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90650" class=""><strong class="">Fro</strong><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90649" style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none;" class=""><strong class="">m:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="JRUTTENBURG@msn.com" href="mailto:JRUTTENBURG@msn.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:JRUTTENBURG@msn.com" class="">Jerry Ruttenburg</a></div><div class="yiv3456315943yqt8481718333" id="yiv3456315943yqt31156"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90658" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: tahoma;" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90657" style="background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><div class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, December 05, 2017 10:45 AM</div><div class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="herky@lists.herky.net" href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net" class="">herky@lists.herky.net</a></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90656" class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Herky] Stuck with Fran</div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90660" class=""> </div></div></div><div class="yiv3456315943yqt8481718333" id="yiv3456315943yqt69505"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90663" style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div id="yiv3456315943divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;" class="">Yes, we need Lickliter or Alford back. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90662" style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;" class=""> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90665" style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;" class="">This team should be better, the talent is there and more is coming, but there is a problem beyond youth. They are playing sloppy and there is a reason, but it has not revealed itself yet. Dissension in the lock room? I don't know but it needs to get straightened out soon or this season is a lose. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90668" style="" class=""><hr tabindex="-1" style="width: 722.25px; display: inline-block;" class=""><div id="yiv3456315943divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90670" face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Herky <<a href="mailto:herky-bounces@lists.herky.net" class="">herky-bounces@lists.herky.net</a>> on behalf of John Lundell <<a href="mailto:johnalundell@gmail.com" class="">johnalundell@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none" class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, December 4, 2017 8:57 PM<br clear="none" class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:herky@lists.herky.net" class="">herky@lists.herky.net</a><br clear="none" class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Herky] Stuck with Fran</font><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90672" class=""> </div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90676" lang="EN-US" class=""><div class="yiv3456315943x_WordSection1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90675"><div class="yiv3456315943x_MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90674">I assume because he has two sons committed to the Hawks we are stuck with Fran for a few more years. But he has proven nothing in his six years and this season looks like it could be his worst team yet. His Philly personality is contrary to “Iowa nice” and hence I am joining the others and checking out of Iowa men’s BB. Even the announcers tonight were saying “terrible defense”, “awful offense” about the Iowa team.</div><div class="yiv3456315943x_MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90678"> </div><div class="yiv3456315943x_MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90680">I have been a continual supporter of KFz because his teams have always risen after bad years and his genuinely caring personality combined with Iowa roots as an assistant. I don’t see these traits in Fran.</div><div class="yiv3456315943x_MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90682"> </div><div class="yiv3456315943x_MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90684">So sad.</div><div class="yiv3456315943x_MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv3456315943x_MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90686">John</div></div></div></div></div><div class=""></div><hr id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512419580121_90689" class="">_______________________________________________<br clear="none" class="">Herky mailing list<br clear="none" class=""><a href="mailto:Herky@lists.herky.net" class="">Herky@lists.herky.net</a><br clear="none" class=""><a href="http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net" class="">http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net</a><br clear="none" class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yqt8481718333" id="yqt56572">_______________________________________________<br clear="none" class="">Herky mailing list<br clear="none" class=""><a href="mailto:Herky@lists.herky.net" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Herky@lists.herky.net" class="">Herky@lists.herky.net</a><br clear="none" class=""><a href="http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net" target="_blank" shape="rect" class="">http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net</a><br clear="none" class=""></div><br class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Herky mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Herky@lists.herky.net" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Herky@lists.herky.net</a><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>