[Herky] BIG Ten Wrestling Championships - Day One

Tue Mar 12 07:03:33 PDT 2019

Ha! I consider myself but an echo to your great observations! I am just glad
wrestling is another positive thing to talk about on this board, along with
women's BBall, given the (temporary?) slump of the men's BBall program. 

Go Hawks!!

Curtis

From: Herky <herky-bounces at lists.herky.net> On Behalf Of Jeff Napier
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:37 PM
To: herky at lists.herky.net
Subject: Re: [Herky] BIG Ten Wrestling Championships - Day One

Truth be told I take the time to give my thoughts because I know that Curtis
will respond and I want to hear his thoughts which are always so much better
than mine.

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From: Herky <herky-bounces at lists.herky.net
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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 5:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [Herky] BIG Ten Wrestling Championships - Day One 

Thanks for the 101 Jeff and I share the optimism with Curtis  :-)

That was an awesome move indeed.  They did show the move from the past too.
Looked like a replay.

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From: Herky <herky-bounces at lists.herky.net
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Subject: Re: [Herky] BIG Ten Wrestling Championships - Day One 

Great write-up and analysis, Jeff. You are right - guys are tentative, at
best. If you look at the guys who are doing well at all schools, there is a
common theme: 

*	They wrestle quick. No long set-ups. They take their shots quick and
they transition to the next move very quickly. They don't just shoot and
retreat or shoot and sit.
*	The wrestle 'funky'. They don't always stick to 'traditional' moves.
Think Jason Nolf and Bo Nickal of PSU. They pull moves out that no one has
seen.
*	They finish. We have too many guys who take a (lazy) shot, are in a
suspect position, and they back out. We sometimes need to push through or
challenge ourselves to transition instead of retreat. 
*	They smell blood in the water - when they have an opponent
vulnerable, they ratchet UP the intensity. 
*	They are confident. They believe they deserve the win and to be on
the mat with the other guy. Think Marinelli.

We have a good team, but they are not great YET. The season isn't over and
Nationals should be a little better than the B10's. This is PSU's year, no
doubt. I think we can be viable for 2nd, but realistic for 3rd. Next year,
we lose Stoll and Bowman from the lineup, but add a few hammers. Could even
have guys that replace starters from this year (like what happened to Paul
Glynn). I remain optimistic, but realistic that there is more parity than
ever before. Everyone needs to know that many ex-Hawkeye wrestlers are on
staff at many of the schools that are on the rise, which dilutes the
dynasty. And PA, NJ, and OH are recruiting hotbeds. Tom and Terry are doing
the best that anyone could in light of these things and there is no one out
there with experience to do better (perhaps a swap of Mark Perry with terry
could change things up). 

Go Hawks!

From: Herky <herky-bounces at lists.herky.net
<mailto:herky-bounces at lists.herky.net> > On Behalf Of Jeff Napier
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 11:36 AM
To: herky at lists.herky.net <mailto:herky at lists.herky.net> 
Subject: Re: [Herky] BIG Ten Wrestling Championships - Day One

Not that I am an expert but here are my thoughts on why Iowa is where they
are now.

1.	Talent is number one. If Iowa had the PSU guys they would be
dominating just like PSU is.  Tom and Terry may not be Gable but they are as
good or better than any other coach out there now as far as coaching up
talent.  Where they have not been as good is recruiting.  
2.	Other teams have caught up to Iowa in many things.  The third period
used to be Iowa's.  Conditioning was a major factor for Iowa. That is no
longer the case.
3.	Injuries/Illness have limited or taken out 3 of the best Iowa guys
this year.   Lee, Kemmerer, Stoll.
4.	Mindset? - Maybe it is just lack of talent but too many of these
guys just do nothing for the first period or so. Seems like  they are just
trying to keep it close so they have a chance in the 3rd when they hope the
other guy is tired.  They need to attack from the beginning.  Mark Ironside
said on the radio that what you do in practice you do in the match.  I
wonder if they do the same thing in practice instead of using that time to
be aggressive, to try new things, to learn they just hand fight and grind
because they don't want to get taken down.  I thnk they are too afraid to
lose instead of going out to win.  I think that was what made Gable so
great. He knew the buttons to push for each wrestler individually to get
them to really believe that they could win a national championship.
5.	Bottom position - My memory may be bad but I don't remember teams
being able to ride Gable's guy. Now it seems like a lot of guys get ridden a
lot.  Other teams like to use legs on top (not sure why Iowa does not) and
Iowa really struggles with that.

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From: Herky <herky-bounces at lists.herky.net
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<jehauck at bellsouth.net <mailto:jehauck at bellsouth.net> >
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 10:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [Herky] BIG Ten Wrestling Championships - Day One 

I miss the days when Iowa won the B1G and the National championship every
year.  I'm guessing other schools have caught up with us in wrestling and
surpassed us.

June H.

From: Gwen Enokian 

Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 9:39 AM

To: Herky 

Subject: Re: [Herky] BIG Ten Wrestling Championships - Day One

Thanks for an excellent summary, Jeff 

So what is missing on this team?  Talent? Technique? Effort? 

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019, 10:45 PM Jeff Napier <jnapier111 at outlook.com
<mailto:jnapier111 at outlook.com> > wrote:

Day one is over and PSU is dominating as expected with 6 in the finals I
think most Iowa fans will be pretty disappointed overall with today's
results. Pretty mixed results. They have 2 in the finals and 5 still alive
in the consolations.  Saddest thing is that the two seniors had their
careers end today.  Bowman and Stoll both are done.  Stoll was a shell of
himself - too many issues with his knees.  Really sad as he deserved better.

Positives:

125 - Lee is in the finals and looks better.  I am not sure he can beat
Rivera tomorrow but hopefully two more weeks of recovery will get him far
enough along that he can compete for the championship.

165 - Marinelli beats Wick for the 3rd time and gets Joseph in the finals.

Negative - Too many matches with few to no shots by the Iowa wrestler.  And
in many of those matches they lost by a point or two. Not a surprise because
we have seen this all year but still disappointing.

It will be interesting to see how they react tomorrow and whether they can
at least finish 3rd.

2019 Big Ten Wrestling Championships Results for Iowa

125

Spencer Lee (18-2) placed 2nd and scored 18.0 team points.

*	Champ. Round 1 - Spencer Lee (Iowa) 18-2 received a bye () (Bye) 
*	Quarterfinal - Spencer Lee (Iowa) 18-2 won by fall over Elijah
Oliver (Indiana) 27-15 (Fall 1:37) 
*	Semifinal - Spencer Lee (Iowa) 18-2 won by major decision over Sean
Russell (Minnesota) 24-4 (MD 8-0)

133

Austin DeSanto (17-3) placed 6th and scored 80 team points.

*	Champ. Round 1 - Austin DeSanto (Iowa) 17-3 received a bye () (Bye) 
*	Quarterfinal - Austin DeSanto (Iowa) 17-3 won by decision over Ben
Thornton (Purdue) 20-9 (Dec 9-3) 
*	Semifinal - Nick Suriano (Rutgers) 23-3 won by decision over Austin
DeSanto (Iowa) 17-3 (Dec 6-3)

141

Max Murin (14-8) placed 8th and scored 4.5 team points.

*	Champ. Round 1 - Max Murin (Iowa) 14-8 won by decision over Nate
Limmex (Purdue) 17-14 (Dec 4-0) 
*	Quarterfinal - Nick Lee (Penn State) 25-2 won by decision over Max
Murin (Iowa) 14-8 (Dec 8-3) 
*	Cons. Round 2 - Max Murin (Iowa) 14-8 won by decision over Pete
Lipari (Rutgers) 10-12 (Dec 6-2) 
*	Cons. Round 3 - Mitch McKee (Minnesota) 19-4 won by decision over
Max Murin (Iowa) 14-8 (Dec 2-1)

149

Pat Lugo (18-7) placed 6th and scored 9.0 team points.

*	Champ. Round 1 - Pat Lugo (Iowa) 18-7 won by decision over Jordan
Shearer (Nebraska) 10-10 (Dec 8-5) 
*	Quarterfinal - Brady Berge (Penn State) 18-3 won in sudden victory -
2 over Pat Lugo (Iowa) 18-7 (SV-2 4-2) 
*	Cons. Round 2 - Pat Lugo (Iowa) 18-7 won by major decision over
Jaden Enriquez (Michigan State) 16-20 (MD 12-3) 
*	Cons. Round 3 - Pat Lugo (Iowa) 18-7 won by decision over Shayne
Oster (Northwestern) 11-12 (Dec 7-4)

157

Kaleb Young (19-4) placed 6th and scored 12.0 team points.

*	Champ. Round 1 - Kaleb Young (Iowa) 19-4 won by forfeit over Jake
Tucker (Michigan State) 21-15 (For.) 
*	Quarterfinal - Alec Pantaleo (Michigan) 16-7 won by decision over
Kaleb Young (Iowa) 19-4 (Dec 3-2) 
*	Cons. Round 2 - Kaleb Young (Iowa) 19-4 won by major decision over
Jake Danishek (Indiana) 18-13 (MD 8-0) 
*	Cons. Round 3 - Kaleb Young (Iowa) 19-4 won by major decision over
Ke-Shawn Hayes (Ohio State) 19-9 (MD 11-1)

165

Alex Marinelli (22-0) placed 2nd and scored 15.0 team points.

*	Champ. Round 1 - Alex Marinelli (Iowa) 22-0 received a bye () (Bye) 
*	Quarterfinal - Alex Marinelli (Iowa) 22-0 won by decision over
Te`Shan Campbell (Ohio State) 20-5 (Dec 6-3) 
*	Semifinal - Alex Marinelli (Iowa) 22-0 won by decision over Evan
Wick (Wisconsin) 27-3 (Dec 2-1)

174

Mitch Bowman (7-7) place is unknown and scored 0.0 team points.

*	Champ. Round 1 - Ryan Christensen (Wisconsin) 17-8 won by decision
over Mitch Bowman (Iowa) 7-7 (Dec 3-2) 
*	Cons. Round 1 - Mitch Bowman (Iowa) 7-7 received a bye () (Bye) 
*	Cons. Round 2 - Drew Hughes (Michigan State) 25-13 won by tech fall
over Mitch Bowman (Iowa) 7-7 (TF-1.5 6:19 (20-5))

184

Cash Wilcke (20-5) placed 6th and scored 8.0 team points.

*	Champ. Round 1 - Cash Wilcke (Iowa) 20-5 won by decision over
Brandon Krone (Minnesota) 9-15 (Dec 2-1) 
*	Quarterfinal - Emery Parker (Illinois) 15-3 won by decision over
Cash Wilcke (Iowa) 20-5 (Dec 3-2) 
*	Cons. Round 2 - Cash Wilcke (Iowa) 20-5 won by decision over Norman
Conley (Indiana) 20-15 (Dec 5-2) 
*	Cons. Round 3 - Cash Wilcke (Iowa) 20-5 won by decision over Max
Lyon (Purdue) 22-12 (Dec 8-3)

197

Jacob Warner (15-4) placed 6th and scored 8.0 team points.

*	Champ. Round 1 - Jacob Warner (Iowa) 15-4 received a bye () (Bye) 
*	Quarterfinal - Jacob Warner (Iowa) 15-4 won by decision over Beau
Breske (Wisconsin) 13-8 (Dec 10-4) 
*	Semifinal - Kollin Moore (Ohio State) 19-1 won by decision over
Jacob Warner (Iowa) 15-4 (Dec 5-2)

285

Sam Stoll (9-5) place is unknown and scored 10 team points.

*	Champ. Round 1 - Sam Stoll (Iowa) 9-5 won by decision over Chase
Beard (Michigan State) 15-13 (Dec 6-1) 
*	Quarterfinal - Gable Steveson (Minnesota) 29-0 won by decision over
Sam Stoll (Iowa) 9-5 (Dec 5-3) 
*	Cons. Round 2 - Jacob Aven (Purdue) 11-19 won by decision over Sam
Stoll (Iowa) 9-5 (Dec 5-2)

174 (9th)

Mitch Bowman (0-0) placed 4th.

*	Quarterfinal - Mitch Bowman (Iowa) 0-0 received a bye () (Bye)

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