[Herky] Convince me otherwise

Gwen Enokian gmcnhawkeye at gmail.com
Wed Sep 12 06:35:41 PDT 2018


interesting conversation

don't have much to add other than the O Line needs to improve as someone
else said

Too early to say much more

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 7:29 AM Jeff Napier <jnapier111 at outlook.com> wrote:

> Kirk said what I was thinking but could not come up with the words
> yesterday - Stanley is aiming the ball
>
>
> *Q. When you watch the tapes on Sundays, what have you observed with Nate
> and maybe why he's struggling a little bit early, especially in terms of
> accuracy?*
>
> KIRK FERENTZ: Yeah, I think he looks like he's pressing to me a little
> bit. I've never played quarterback. I did throw one pass -- yeah, one pass
> in 10th grade. I completed it, too. I didn't have my contacts in and I
> couldn't see. I just hauled it out and some guy caught it; it was a
> miracle. That's a long story, we won't go there. But I did throw one pass
> in my life, but I'm not a passer. But I know a little bit about throwing a
> baseball, and you can't aim a ball, I know that, when you throw something.
> I think he's doing a little bit of that right now, trying to be too
> perfect, and then the points earlier we're just not quite there in terms of
> sync. Just going to keep working at it. There's no pixie dust or pill we
> give a guy or something like that. It's just working through it and
> developing confidence.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Herky <herky-bounces at lists.herky.net> on behalf of Jeff Napier <
> jnapier111 at outlook.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 10, 2018 10:07 AM
> *To:* herky at lists.herky.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Herky] Convince me otherwise
>
>
> This is probably not a good time for me to respond when the last QB I
> watched was Aaron Rodgers in the second half for Green Bay last night.
> Here is a guy who had zero mobility because he was hurt but still had
> enough pocket presence to move around to buy time to find a receiver.  For
> many of the completions the receiver had no separation.  Now obviously
> comparing Stanley to one of the top 3 QB's of all time is not fair but is
> does highlight the two main issues with Stanley.  He does not have a very
> good pocket presence and he is not consistently accurate.  I am not sure if
> the pocket presence is something you just have or don't but I have not seen
> much improvement in this area.
>
>
> My theory on his accuracy. Stanley's default has always been to use his
> strong arm and throw a rocket. Putting touch on a ball is not natural.  So
> he is still learning how to make that throw.  And when to make each type of
> throw. This may be causing him to think too much rather than just throw
> naturally.  Whether pitching a baseball or throwing a football that will
> hurt your accuracy.
>
>
> What Stanley is much better at is commanding the offense. The pass to
> Smith that set up the TD was an audible. (It was also a perfect pass).
> Mansell would not be doing that at this point in his career.
>
>
> I watched some of the Tyler Weigers game and he did not look better than
> Stanley to me.  Different type of passes - lots of easy short completions.
> I still do not understand why Iowa does not throw to their RBs more. They
> have one catch in 2 games.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Herky <herky-bounces at lists.herky.net> on behalf of Scott Werling <
> scw969 at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 9, 2018 5:47 PM
> *To:* herky at lists.herky.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Herky] Convince me otherwise
>
>
> Agreed.  Plus Stanley doesn't seem to be improving.  That indicates to me
> that he has topped out at his talent level.  If not, why doesn't he
> improve?  Is the QB coach not doing a good job?
>
> It's very concerning to me. I'm sticking with 7-5.  But I hope I'm wrong.
>
> Scott
>
> --------
>
> Well we don't really have a second team quarterback right now, so we
> really can't have a quarterback controversy. If Tyler Wiegers had stayed
> perhaps we would. Wouldn't you like to have a quarterback with these
> statistics?
>
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>
> We only have 3 quarterbacks on scholarship and the other two are a red
> shirt Freshman and a true Freshman. Both Peyton Mansell and Spencer Petras
> look promising, but are they ready to play the game management system Iowa
> uses? The sad thing is this lack of a backup will probably happen again. As
> upperclassmen, whomever of Mansell or Petras does not start will probably
> transfer.
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 9/9/2018 10:24 AM, Curtis Frazier wrote:
>
> *All,*
>
>
>
> *I am not a pessimist by nature, but I am very convinced that Nate Stanley
> is a liability (and the receivers, to a lesser degree). I did not see him
> making solid reads, he looked uncomposed at times, threw uncatchable balls
> under no real pressure, does not really run when that should be an option,
> and throws 5 yard passes when 8 yards is needed. If this keeps up, I hate
> to say it but he will be the primary reason we lose games moving forward.
> The receivers, as I mentioned,  may not be getting separation, but I cannot
> fault them for the passes being spot on (except for the pass to Fant in
> Week #1). *
>
>
>
> *I am not advocating for a QB change (yet), but this is going to get real
> serious, real quick if there is not a significant change in his ability to
> be a field general. *
>
>
>
> *Convince me otherwise, PLEASE!*
>
>
>
> *Curtis F.*
>
> *630.930.9429*
>
>
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