[Herky] One fluke game and the rest meh

Russ Naden rtnaden at gmail.com
Tue Nov 21 07:55:27 PST 2017


Agree completely 

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> On Nov 21, 2017, at 8:05 AM, Jeff Napier <jnapier111 at outlook.com> wrote:
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> Kirk is a very good coach and we will be hard pressed to get a better one if get rid of him.  But more important is the type of person he is.  This really hit me when I was down in WI for that game.  Through my nephew I talked with some guys who have contact with present and past coaches.  Bielema and Ryan had better success but I would not ever want them to be coaches at Iowa. Character still counts for me.
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> From: Herky <herky-bounces at lists.herky.net> on behalf of Keith Voigts <kvoigts at wisemanengine.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 11:06 PM
> To: herky at lists.herky.net
> Subject: Re: [Herky] One fluke game and the rest meh
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> It’s funny how fans react after a win or a loss.  When the N.O. Saints went 0-2 to start the season, the rage was Brees is over the hill and should go, the coach should go and take the GM with him.  Now the Saints have won 8 in a row and Brees should play until he is 45, the coach is the best in history, and the GM is a genius 
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> I hope we never get in the SEC mode of firing a coach at a whim.  I’m too old to be a “winning is everything” kind of guy—in the college world, that is.
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> Keith Voigts
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> From: Herky [mailto:herky-bounces at lists.herky.net] On Behalf Of Dennis v
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 12:38 AM
> To: herky at lists.herky.net
> Subject: Re: [Herky] One fluke game and the rest meh
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> That sounds about right, regardless of who is coaching.  So Ferentz is the one who guides the Hawkeyes for the next 7 or 8 years, I assume, then the next guy comes in and achieves about the same level of wins and losses. About a .525 to .550 winning percentage overall, about the same in the B1G.
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> Yes, it will be interesting to see how the offense changes and how much improvement the young guys make next year.  I really like Stanley, I think he will be a super QB.  The young first-year RBs this year looked quite impressive.  The TEs will be strong.
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> I hope the OL will be too.
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> Always half full,
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> Dennis v.
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> p.s. Pinstripe Bowl this year?
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> From: Jeff Napier
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> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:53 PM
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> To: herky at lists.herky.net
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> Subject: Re: [Herky] One fluke game and the rest meh
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> Dennis -  What is the realistic expectation of what Iowa should do year in and year out?  My expectations are that Iowa will basically be a 7-8 win team. Some years they will be slightly better and some seasons they will be slightly worse.  Do you think that we can get a coach will consistently win 9 games a year? Kirk and Hayden are two Hall of Fame coaches and they could not.  If we fire Kirk who do we get that will do better? Maybe we get a Matt Campbell but maybe we get a Todd Lickliter.  And I don't think a Matt Campbell does any better than Kirk or Hayden.  He just gives us a change.
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> When I look at these facts about the offense I am much more likely to wait for next year to see what a BF offense will really look like.
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> - an entirely new staff on offense (either new to the staff or new to a position they had not coached before or both)
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> - a new playbook (all new terminology, etc)
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> - a first year QB with no previous experience.
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> - two FR offensive tackles.
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> - two young TE's who still need some time in the weight room and hence are not very good at blocking (one playing his first year)
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> - all new WR's when compared to last year. The only returning WR (MVB) does not appear to be the same guy that was so good two years ago.
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> From: Herky <herky-bounces at lists.herky.net> on behalf of Dennis v <dvanlangen at verizon.net>
> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 5:10 PM
> To: herky at lists.herky.net
> Subject: Re: [Herky] One fluke game and the rest meh
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> You are likely correct in your assessment.  We will have to endure mediocrity in the football program, except for an anomalous season here and there where the team wins 10 plus games and gets a decent bowl.
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> Enjoy the ride everyone!
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> From: Corey King
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> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 4:28 PM
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> To: herky at lists.herky.net
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> Subject: Re: [Herky] One fluke game and the rest meh
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> Bret Bielema is soon to be available.
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> It sounds like I'm in the minority here, but firing KFz isn't the answer here.  For those who want him fired, who do you really think Iowa will get that would be better?  
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> On Nov 19, 2017, at 11:48 AM, Jake Stein <jakestein77 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Scott, if Kirk were to go, would be on the short list to replace him?
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> On Nov 19, 2017 10:58 AM, "Scott Werling" <scw969 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> If the Hawks are 6-6, do they deserve a bowl game?  IMHO no.  Will they get one?  Probably.  Will they get crushed?  More than likely.
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> The same plays run over and over and they work 1 time for 6 yards, maybe.  Short side sweep?  High school offense.  More pass attempts on first down is good, but the leadership is just not there.
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> That has to be on KFz.  Brian Fz can call the wonderful plays they want but if the Hawks don’t have the horses to get it done, then it’s all for naught. 
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> Kirk needs to go.  The new line coach?  I know he has a true Freshman at right tackle and RS Freshman at left tackle.  They will be better next year and the year after that. 
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> Kirk needs to go.  What happened to our WR and dropping passes?  I understand Nate S is a Soph. And I understand that dropped passes happen occasionally.  But this is a pattern.
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> Kirk needs to go.  I feel sorry for Butler & Wadley being wasted this year.  Up the middle, up the middle, short side sweep, short side sweep.  Put them at a flanker spot and toss them the ball.  Like a long handoff.
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> Kirk needs to go.  Kevin O’Fricking my Keefe.  Did Stanley improve over the course of the year?  IMHO no.
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> Kirk needs to go.  The punt game is worse than high school.  Kick off, PAT, FG seem solid.  Get a Junior College punter for god’s sake.
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> Kirk needs to go.
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> Finally, I’ll end this rant with these 4 words: Kirk needs to go.
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> Rant over
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> Scott
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