[Herky] NCAA Wrestling Championships

Thu Mar 23 17:54:39 PDT 2017

Totally true and the Teasdale loss was certainly one that hurts (don't get
me started on the 'verbal commit' topic, though. It is an unnecessary stroke
of an ego of children, IMHO. There literally should be no credibility put in
verbal commits at all and I do not hold this kid liable for making the
switch - closer to home and family, good school, clearly a top program.
Whatever his motivation was to switch is no one's business and no one should
assume.).

As for the head to head in 2018, you are right, it will be a fantastic year
to see our guys go head to head with PSU - it will be a very competitive
race that year. But then the studs for PSU start to drop off in graduation,
etc. Yes, we can assume they will load the cannon with more studs, but I
think that will be the true test of coaching. Can TnT prepare these kids to
fight with the fight that Gilman had and take everything they can to PSU to
make them competitive? I am certainly counting on it because I cannot think
of a better duo to do so that exists out there.

Lots of unknowns, but I have to believe that our Club room is going to help
these kids be ready. 

I think that one of the potential great rivalries could be
Lee-Teasdale....right?

Oh, and I hope that Kevin Dresser can bring some shine back to the ISU
program. It sucks to me that they fell so low. 

From: Herky [mailto:herky-bounces at lists.herky.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Napier
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:31 PM
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Curtis - I always like when you give you input and put a better light on
things.  I agree that Iowa will be much better in a couple of years. They
are getting better recruits. But even with the improved recruiting PSU has
better guy or a guy at about the same level as every one of Iowa's guys come
2018.  And to throw more cold water on our chances Gavin Teasdale just
changed his commitment to PSU.   That is a big hit.

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All,

Sorry I missed the show, but I was out of town and did not have access to
Herky.

First, thank you to Jeff for the great updates - I know it isn't easy, but
it is a great read!

As for Jeff below, you (as always) make some great points. Here is my 2
cents worth (worth even less). 

Yes, we are losing some firepower and some hammers. However, please do not
be discouraged. We are re-loading the cannon next year with some of the best
recruits in the country (Spencer Lee @ 125, Jacob Warner  @ 197, Max Murin@
141, Aaron Costello @ Hwt, Justin Stickley @ 133-149, as well as some gifted
next tier guys like Myles Wilson @ 174 and Zach Acmear @ 149). Not to
mention that we have Gavin Teasdale coming in the following year at the
lower weight as well. We have some studs in the room that didn't  wrestle
this year in Sam Stoll, Alex Marinelli and Vince Turk. And the remaining 5
in the lineup from this year are pretty qualified and have some great
experience under their belts. The message - the cupboard isn't empty. 

Just say to yourself "I am not expecting much in 2017 for Iowa, but watch
out 2018!", because these recruits need to bake a little longer before they
are ready to come out of the oven. A redshirt year for them will position us
greatly to compete (and beat) PSU in 2018. So follow the team next year, but
set your expectations in a rebuilding year mentality, because even if we
started every one of these guys, PSU is returning 6 potential champions
(Suriano, their 125 lb guy who injured his ankle - would have been a
contender as a freshman). Next year is our chance to watch and learn
wrestling as a sport. 

It pains me to say, but Sanderson has put together an incredible lineup
(still 4th best behind 2 previous Iowa teams and an OSU team, though). Some
of the best wrestlers I have seen who know how to wrestle through the
whistle and for 7 full minutes, with bonus points on the mind in every match
(are you listening, Brandon Sorenson?).  Look for Sorenson and Kemerer to do
great damage next year, as well as Stoll. We just may not have a champion
until the following year. 

How's that for lipstick on a pig! 

CMF

From: Herky [mailto:herky-bounces at lists.herky.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Napier
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:55 PM
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Let's start with the good news. Cory Clark wins a national title. The
toughness he showed wrestling with the injured shoulder and being able to
compete at that level is amazing.

Now the bad news as Jeff talked about in the previous email.  PSU won all
five of those matches including two where they knocked of #1 seeded
defending champions who were undefeated.  Add Suriano and you have 6 guys
who will probably be favored to win the title next year.  

Next year Iowa will be down losing Gilman, Clark, Carton, Meyer, and Brooks
from this team.  And the problem is that their best guys (Sorensen, Kemerer,
and Marinelli) are at the weights that PSU has national champions.  When I
look at the match-ups PSU could very well shut out Iowa when they meet for a
dual.

Iowa is doing a much better job of recruiting and in two years they will
probably have 4 guys who were top 10 pfp coming out of high school in the
line-up. This is still not close to what PSU is doing but much better than
they have now.

Now for my annual rants at the end of the season. First I appreciate that
ESPN streams every match and they have increased the amount of coverage on
tv. But I grow tired of the obvious bias toward PSU. Certainly they will get
more attention since they have five guys in the finals but when the guy
doing the interview after the matches is leading the We are Penn State chant
they have crossed the line. Just like it would not be appropriate for him to
end his interview with Clark with Go Hawks. And they are interviewing former
PSU guys and putting tweets from them on tv.  

The other thing I noticed is this year they did not list the other place
winners. Normally at the end of a weight they will put up a list of all
eight guys.  These guys work so hard all year. Give them a few seconds of
recognition on tv.

As far as the wrestling itself they still need to do something about
stalling.  I watched too many matches where one guy takes 0-1 legitimate
shots the whole match and while the other guy takes 5-10 good shots yet no
stalling or stalling is called with 20 seconds left when it makes no
difference.  For all the talk about PSU's exciting wrestling they would have
two less champions if they called stalling as Joseph and Hall both stalled
to wins in the semi finals.  There is also way too much riding that is just
to ride with no attempt to turn the guy. I could go on with other areas
where stalling is not called.  About the only thing I know for next year is
that PSU will be very dominate and nothing will be done to address these
needs. 

One other thing that I would like to see changed is the challenge system.
There are way too many breaks due to challenges. Put a penalty to a
challenge that does not get reversed. Award a point to the other guy or give
him choice similar to what they did with injuries to stop the abuse of guys
being injured to get a rest break.

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Jeff, thanks for all the updates and stats. Iowa should be pretty well
assured of taking home the fourth place trophy, which is about the best
result we could have expected. I'd made a comment earlier about what I think
is the lack of progress around the Iowa program. We haven't been a factor in
the team race since our last title in 2010 (the last year of the Virginia
Tech class). I've been tracking the top eight teams in the tournament and
here are some facts: Iowa returns 38.5 tournament points to next year's
team. Contrast this with Oklahoma State returning 80, Ohio State with 106
and Penn State with 117.5. This is before any points are added in during the
finals and the Penn State total is without any contribution from Suriano who
was injured. Looks like a pretty steep hill to climb in the near term.

My understanding is the tonight's finals will start at 197, meaning it's
like a Penn State dual meet for the last five bouts. Fans may want to turn
down the sound on ESPN for those matches and listen to the radio call from
Penn State. Jeff Byers is definitely a home team announcer but he gets
pretty fired up and is entertaining to listen to. You can find the link to
the broadcast on the Penn State website and it's free to listen to.

Jeff

On 3/18/2017 3:05 PM, Jeff Napier wrote:

Brooks gets stuck again and finishes fourth. Iowa finishes 7-1 for the
session and moves from 7th to 4th.

Team Standings

Team

Points

Maximum
Potential
Points

# F

# 1st

# 2nd

# 3rd

# 4th

# 5th

# 6th

# 7th

# 8th

Penn State

122

152

5

				1

Ohio State

106

118

2

		2

1

1

Oklahoma State

99

105

1

			2

2

2

1

Iowa

93

99

1

		3

1

Missouri

82.5

100.5

3

				1

1

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Sorensen and Kemerer both win to take 3rd. Iowa now 7-0 for the day.

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It looks pretty good for Iowa to get a trophy (top four get trophies).
Missouri has 3 in the finals but they are huge underdogs in two so they
probably only get one 1st which hopefully Iowa can match. 

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Gilman wins and finishes 3rd.  According to the announcers much of the crowd
gave him a standing ovation. 

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Clark wins his match and is the only Iowa guy in the finals. If not for that
I would say this round was a total disaster. Gilman loses his first match of
the year. Sorensen and Brooks get stuck in the first minute of their matches
against PSU opponents. Meyer and Wilcke lose their match and are eliminated.
Kemerer wins two matches and stays alive in this battle to try and take 3rd.
It is really ridiculous how much better PSU is than Iowa. They win all five
of their semi-final matches. Not sure what the team score record is but PSU
might come close. If they had Suriano I think they would beat it.  And PSU
will be better next year. 

Team Scores

1. 

Penn State 

121.0

2. 

Ohio State 

89.5

3. 

Oklahoma State 

86.0

4. 

Missouri 

81.5

5. 

Iowa 

74.0

6. 

Minnesota 

60.0

7. 

Cornell 

57.5

8. 

Virginia Tech 

53.5

9. 

Nebraska 

50.0

2017 NCAA Division I Championships Results for Iowa
125 - Thomas Gilman (30-1) placed 6th and scored 13.00 team points.
    Champ. Round 1 - Thomas Gilman (Iowa) 30-1 won by major decision over
Brent Fleetwood (Central Michigan) 22-12 (MD 19-6)
    Champ. Round 2 - Thomas Gilman (Iowa) 30-1 won by major decision over
Nathan Kraisser (Campbell) 29-9 (MD 22-8)
    Quarterfinal - Thomas Gilman (Iowa) 30-1 won by fall over Nicholas
Piccininni (Oklahoma State) 26-7 (Fall 6:04)
    Semifinal - Darian Cruz (Lehigh) 30-2 won in sudden victory - 1 over
Thomas Gilman (Iowa) 30-1 (SV-1 4-2)

133 - Cory Clark (19-3) placed 2nd and scored 16.00 team points.
    Champ. Round 1 - Cory Clark (Iowa) 19-3 won by decision over Connor
Schram (Stanford) 15-6 (Dec 4-0)
    Champ. Round 2 - Cory Clark (Iowa) 19-3 won by decision over Pat D`Arcy
(Princeton) 17-16 (Dec 10-5)
    Quarterfinal - Cory Clark (Iowa) 19-3 won by decision over Stevan Micic
(Michigan) 28-6 (Dec 6-4)
    Semifinal - Cory Clark (Iowa) 19-3 won by decision over Nathan Tomasello
(Ohio State) 22-1 (Dec 7-4)

141 - Christopher Carton (26-10) place is unknown and scored 2.50 team
points.
    Prelim - Christopher Carton (Iowa) 26-10 won by decision over Joshua
Heil (Campbell) 15-13 (Dec 4-0)
    Champ. Round 1 - George DiCamillo (Virginia) 24-4 won by major decision
over Christopher Carton (Iowa) 26-10 (MD 13-4)
    Cons. Round 1 - Christopher Carton (Iowa) 26-10 won by major decision
over Cole Martin (Wisconsin) 21-17 (MD 16-4)
    Cons. Round 2 - Luke Pletcher (Ohio State) 25-9 won by decision over
Christopher Carton (Iowa) 26-10 (Dec 9-6)

149 - Brandon Sorensen (29-5) placed 6th and scored 11.00 team points.
    Champ. Round 1 - Brandon Sorensen (Iowa) 29-5 won by fall over Matthew
Zovistoski (Appalachian State) 28-11 (Fall 2:11)
    Champ. Round 2 - Brandon Sorensen (Iowa) 29-5 won by decision over
Andrew Crone (Wisconsin) 29-13 (Dec 6-2)
    Quarterfinal - Brandon Sorensen (Iowa) 29-5 won by decision over Micah
Jordan (Ohio State) 32-4 (Dec 3-0)
    Semifinal - Zain Retherford (Penn State) 27-0 won by fall over Brandon
Sorensen (Iowa) 29-5 (Fall 2:37)

157 - Michael Kemerer (31-3) placed 6th and scored 13.50 team points.
    Champ. Round 1 - Michael Kemerer (Iowa) 31-3 won by major decision over
Jake Danishek (Indiana) 19-15 (MD 14-3)
    Champ. Round 2 - Michael Kemerer (Iowa) 31-3 won by tech fall over Chase
Delande (Edinboro) 23-18 (TF-1.5 6:34 (22-6))
    Quarterfinal - Dylan Palacio (Cornell) 11-2 won by fall over Michael
Kemerer (Iowa) 31-3 (Fall 3:28)
    Cons. Round 4 - Michael Kemerer (Iowa) 31-3 won by major decision over
May Bethea (Pennsylvania) 27-11 (MD 14-3)
    Cons. Round 5 - Michael Kemerer (Iowa) 31-3 won by major decision over
Paul Fox (Stanford) 28-15 (MD 15-6)

165 - Joseph Gunther (20-10) place is unknown and scored 1.00 team points.
    Champ. Round 1 - Brandon Womack (Cornell) 34-10 won by major decision
over Joseph Gunther (Iowa) 20-10 (MD 12-3)
    Cons. Round 1 - Joseph Gunther (Iowa) 20-10 won by decision over Lorenzo
De La Riva (CSU Bakersfield) 19-13 (Dec 3-1)
    Cons. Round 2 - Joseph Gunther (Iowa) 20-10 won by decision over Branson
Ashworth (Wyoming) 36-9 (Dec 6-3)
    Cons. Round 3 - Bryce Steiert (Northern Iowa) 22-6 won by decision over
Joseph Gunther (Iowa) 20-10 (Dec 8-3)

174 - Alex Meyer (26-9) place is unknown and scored 2.00 team points.
    Champ. Round 1 - Alex Meyer (Iowa) 26-9 won by decision over Austin
Dewey (Boise State) 24-15 (Dec 6-1)
    Champ. Round 2 - Alex Meyer (Iowa) 26-9 won by decision over Ryan
Preisch (Lehigh) 25-6 (Dec 7-5)
    Quarterfinal - Bo Jordan (Ohio State) 18-1 won by decision over Alex
Meyer (Iowa) 26-9 (Dec 4-3)
    Cons. Round 4 - Kyle Crutchmer (Oklahoma State) 22-7 won by decision
over Alex Meyer (Iowa) 26-9 (Dec 13-10)

184 - Sammy Brooks (27-3) placed 6th and scored 13.00 team points.
    Champ. Round 1 - Sammy Brooks (Iowa) 27-3 won by decision over Nicholas
Gravina (Rutgers) 23-11 (Dec 7-3)
    Champ. Round 2 - Sammy Brooks (Iowa) 27-3 won by fall over Dakota Geer
(Edinboro) 31-10 (Fall 3:44)
    Quarterfinal - Sammy Brooks (Iowa) 27-3 won by fall over Emery Parker
(Illinois) 30-10 (Fall 6:01)
    Semifinal - Bo Nickal (Penn State) 25-1 won by fall over Sammy Brooks
(Iowa) 27-3 (Fall 1:02)

197 - Cash Wilcke (19-13) place is unknown and scored 2.00 team points.
    Champ. Round 1 - Cash Wilcke (Iowa) 19-13 won in sudden victory - 1 over
Tom Sleigh (Bucknell) 31-7 (SV-1 4-2)
    Champ. Round 2 - Jared Haught (Virginia Tech) 27-3 won by decision over
Cash Wilcke (Iowa) 19-13 (Dec 4-1)
    Cons. Round 2 - Cash Wilcke (Iowa) 19-13 won by decision over Josh
Marchok (Stanford) 16-9 (Dec 6-2)
    Cons. Round 3 - Cash Wilcke (Iowa) 19-13 won in sudden victory - 2 over
Frank Mattiace (Pennsylvania) 28-11 (SV-2 4-3)
    Cons. Round 4 - Kevin Beazley (Old Dominion) 25-7 won by decision over
Cash Wilcke (Iowa) 19-13 (Dec 7-6)

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Good second round for Iowa. Meyer knocks off the 6th seed.  The only loss in
the championship side was Wilcke at 197 which was expected.  Carton and
Gunther both win their first consolations matches.

2017 NCAA Division I Wrestling Championships Schedule 

Date

Time (ET)

Session

Network/

WatchESPN Link 

Number of ESPN3 Mat Feeds

Thu, March 16

Noon -  3:30 p.m.

First Round

ESPNU

Eight Mats

7 p.m. - 10:30 p.m.

Second Round

ESPN

Eight Mats

Fri, March 17

11 a.m. - 2 p.m.

Third Round  -  Quarterfinals

ESPNU

Eight Mats

8 p.m. - 11 p.m.

Fourth Round  - Semifinals

ESPN 

Six Mats

Sat, March 18

11 a.m. - 2 p.m.

Fifth Session - Medal Round

ESPNU

Three Mats

8 p.m. - 11 p.m.

Sixth Session - Championship Finals

ESPN

One Mat

Please Note:  <http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index> WatchESPN.com and the
WatchESPN and ESPN app will have links for individual mat feeds throughout
the Championship

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