[Herky] This is ugly..

Tue Mar 22 12:35:32 PDT 2016

I agree 100 percent.  All coaches get fired up and have emotional outbursts.  They yell at players and get in their faces.  Part of the game.  The lone exception was Todd Lickliter, who was a zombie.

Christian Williams apparently performed better in practices than did Ellingson over the past several weeks.  I think both those guys will get meaningful playing time in 2016-17.   

I can see a lineup/backups of:

PG – Williams and Bohannon
SG – Jok, Ellingson, and Fleming
SF – Baer, Uhl, and Moss
BF – Wagner and Hutton
Post – Jones and Cook

Dennis v.

From: Jerry Ruttenburg 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:26 PM
To: Herky 
Subject: Re: [Herky] This is ugly..

See below

Jerry Ruttenburg 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: kvoigts at wisemanengine.com
To: herky at lists.herky.net
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:10:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [Herky] This is ugly..

Agree with all the comments.  BTW, is Oglesby II (aka Ellingson) injured or did he just play his way out of minutes?

Moving along, please help me with this thought:

Have you ever noticed that at times during games Coach Fran gets really worked up and loses his temper—his face gets all red and just cannot contain himself.  Sometimes it’s worth a technical or two.  He has a lot of passion and gusto and loses control when he really believes something is wrong with a call or non-call.

 He has not had a technical since early in the season.

If he does that in games, what might practice be like?  Is it possible that yelling and screaming and butt chewing kind of gets old toward the end of a season and the players just tune out or rebel by showing they don’t care?  After all, if you work your butt out day after day and get screamed at day after day, what’s the point?

 Izzo screams at his player all the time, doesn't seem to keep them from winning a national championship.

I may be way off, and practices may be totally different than what I described.  I have no evidence either way.  It’s just a theory.  Please help me out here.

Remember, ages ago, Lute’s teams sometimes tanked in the NCAA.  It was like they all of a sudden got real nervous.  How can that happen after a year of relative success?  In the current situation, it seems like we hit a wall at 20 wins.

I hope Coach Fran gets it together.  I like his style (when things are being executed), and he seems to be bringing in more athletic players.  Plus his sons appear to be really, really good………………………..

Keith Voigts

From: Herky [mailto:herky-bounces at lists.herky.net] On Behalf Of Dennis v
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:18 AM
To: herky at lists.herky.net
Subject: Re: [Herky] This is ugly..

I agree 100 percent.  Also, Ellingson will improve, along with Baer, Uhl, Fleming, Williams, and Wagner.  Add Hutton and Moss, and I think the club will be very solid, albeit it very young.  Jones would have really helped a lot this year.  Hopefully that knee is 100 percent by October.

Dennis v.

From: Corey King 

Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:01 AM

To: herky at lists.herky.net 

Subject: Re: [Herky] This is ugly..

I know we are losing a lot but next year's class is a good one including Tyler Cook and Bohannon.  Hopefully, Dale Jones remains healthy after he was out all this year.  I think it goes without saying but we need Peter Jok to return as well.

CK 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 21, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Keith Voigts <kvoigts at wisemanengine.com> wrote:

  Recall that the two teams in the B1G tournament finals lost in the first round.  There are black clouds elsewhere.

  Just curious, John, why do you not have confidence in Fran for the future?  Is there something “outside the lines”?

  Keith L. Voigts

  Wiseman Technologies, Inc.

  From: Herky [mailto:herky-bounces at lists.herky.net] On Behalf Of John Lundell
  Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:05 AM
  To: herky at lists.herky.net
  Subject: Re: [Herky] This is ugly..

  Nor are they any fun to watch. BIG trouble for players and fans. Unfortunately I have no confidence in Fran to keep it from being the same next year. 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 20, 2016, at 10:12 PM, Dennis v <dvanlangen at verizon.net> wrote:

    Looks like the Hawks lost zest, zeal., and heart.  And they didn’t have fun.

    Dennis v.

    From: Keith Voigts 

    Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 10:33 PM

    To: herky at lists.herky.net 

    Subject: Re: [Herky] This is ugly..

    The basketball trend is worrisome, but this wasn’t any more embarrassing than the Rose Bowl debacle.  

    Our players need to step up and not get so rattled that the bubble breaks with the first negative trend.  What happened to the attitudes that caused the Purdue comeback?

    It’s just so confusing…………….

    Keith L. Voigts, President

    Wiseman Technologies, Inc.

    From: Herky [mailto:herky-bounces at lists.herky.net] On Behalf Of Ted Miller
    Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 6:45 PM
    To: herky at lists.herky.net
    Subject: Re: [Herky] This is ugly..

    will really be good to say goodbye to 3 of our 4 seniors..but I think we have some up and coming young players, so have to stay hopeful for the coming years !!!! I am not as optimistic about Fran..these late season collapses I feel have a lot to poor coaching and preparation !!!!! GO HAWKEYES !!!!! Keep the faith !!!!

    Ted 

    On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jim Monahan <jimmonahan8 at gmail.com> wrote:

      "No competitive spirit"!
      " Iowa didn't show up!!
      "Unmotivated"
      Game was over after the first 10 minutes!"
      Above are quote from CBS panel observers in rating the humiliated Hawkeyes.   Have you heard a harsher critique of an Iowa team, or maybe any team?
      Turn the lights out, Fran.  You are numero uno deserving to be blamed.
      Well, what the ----,  it's only a game🤐!
      Iowa played miserably, laying an egg before the whole country.   WHY were they so poorly prepared?  In the biggest chance "for one shining moment" in their lives, Iowa was weak and meek.  
      Jim Monahan

      On Mar 20, 2016 12:47 PM, "Keith Voigts" <kvoigts at wisemanengine.com> wrote:

        Nova. Hit a couple of shots and the bubble burst. Our seniors did not show senior leadership. This is beyond disappointment. It is total embarrassment. 

        Our coaching staff needs to fix this in the future. 

        On another front. That Lockyer Duke. All the had to do was beat a directional Tennessee school and Duke to get to the sweet sixteen. It shows what a top 4 seed means. 

        Keith Voigts

        Sent from my iPhone

        On Mar 20, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Dennis v <dvanlangen at verizon.net> wrote:

          Iowa players seem to be completely intimidated and have ZERO energy.  Uthoff looks like he did in his first few games at Iowa.  Shaky.

          Dennis v.

          From: Jeff Napier 

          Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:06 PM

          To: Herky 

          Subject: Re: [Herky] This is ugly..

          It is beyond ugly.  And all the nation gets to see this on CBS.

          > From: patjudyo at sbcglobal.net
          > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:59:16 -0500
          > To: herky at lists.herky.net
          > Subject: [Herky] This is ugly..
          > 
          > The boys from Nova as exposing Iowa's softness. Iowa's ball handling has been very poor. The seniors are playing like freshmen. 
          > 
          > Very disappointing.
          > 
          > Pat ORourke
          > 
          > Sent from my iPad
          > _______________________________________________
          > Herky mailing list
          > Herky at lists.herky.net
          > http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net

----------------------------------------------------------------------

          _______________________________________________
          Herky mailing list
          Herky at lists.herky.net
          http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net

          _______________________________________________
          Herky mailing list
          Herky at lists.herky.net
          http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net

        _______________________________________________
        Herky mailing list
        Herky at lists.herky.net
        http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net

      _______________________________________________
      Herky mailing list
      Herky at lists.herky.net
      http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    _______________________________________________
    Herky mailing list
    Herky at lists.herky.net
    http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net

    _______________________________________________
    Herky mailing list
    Herky at lists.herky.net
    http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net

  _______________________________________________
  Herky mailing list
  Herky at lists.herky.net
  http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

_______________________________________________
Herky mailing list
Herky at lists.herky.net
http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net

_______________________________________________ Herky mailing list Herky at lists.herky.net http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Herky mailing list
Herky at lists.herky.net
http://lists.herky.net/listinfo.cgi/herky-herky.net
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.herky.net/pipermail/herky-herky.net/attachments/20160322/a44d2234/attachment.htm>